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|  | Sinister Member Wonky 3D Drunkard | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England
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The CPU is ok, i have one. It can run a bit hot when the ambient temperature goes up i had mine go off a couple of times from overheating during some perticularly grueling renders before i upgraded from the stock cpu cooler.
GFX card is an OEM product that you cant buy retail so the cances of finding a meaningful review are not good. The specs look pretty average GeForce GT 130 (OEM Product) but 1.5gb is about double the normal memory on these things. The card supports only 2way sli so it could be running 2 cards. If its only 1 card its doubltful the mobo will have space for a second killing the sli option.
One note, dont expect to be able to add more ram if you need it. Those standard mobo's never seem to be able to take more ram than what comes pre installed. Also dont forget that Core 2 duo/quad are starting to be faded out soon so i would seriously stop and think about spending a grand on what will be obsolite in less than 6 months. there will be no room for upgrade as i3/5/7 are all on different slots than quads and DDR3 different slots from DDR2
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07-02-2009, 02:55 PM
|  | Cute lil Tadpole Sinister 3D Overlord | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: coventry, england
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oh right, well i never upgrade my comp unless its 100% necessary so weird plugs aren't a problem for me, i just need it to run the next 4 years of games and render render fast.
actually could you maybe pick out a pc from here that you think is perfect for me, i know its asking a lot of your time but i really need some help with all of this, my budget is £900
these are the best places as i can get there and pick it up, postage would be a right rip off for a pc base pcworld - desktop pc's. Currys - Desktop PCs Dixons - Digital Home PCs | 
07-02-2009, 03:06 PM
| | Senior Member Polygon Fumbler | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plymouth, UK
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Have you tried: OVERCLOCKERS
or THIS IN PARTICULAR
Just get the case etc and save £££
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07-02-2009, 03:35 PM
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im not putting a pc together, i put pieces together in this one and if you skip to page one you can see how well that went  i would just rather buy a pre built fully working pc and never ever touch its insides | 
07-02-2009, 03:57 PM
|  | Sinister Member Wonky 3D Drunkard | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England
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Well the problems with curries dixons and pc world is they are all part of the same group. Kind of like shopping at the same place but no if you get my drift. Go down to your local pc shop not some mega store. Lightning Computers 107 Duke St, St Helens these are my local guys, check out what u get for your money and you can see the difference. You can usually pick the bones and then add extra gubbinz a bit cheaper, and if they are like these guys they give you all the boxes so you still get your 3year warrenty on your cpu and life time on your ram, which pc world steal from you. They do an 8200 with 4gb ram 1tb hdd for about 380 say 150 on a GFX card and 90 for home premium.
Plus these type of places actually know about computers which is a bonus.
Shame you dont live up this way I would have done it for you in excange for a piss up and saved you even more
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07-02-2009, 04:05 PM
| | Senior Member Polygon Fumbler | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plymouth, UK
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Originally Posted by tadpole3159 im not putting a pc together, i put pieces together in this one and if you skip to page one you can see how well that went  i would just rather buy a pre built fully working pc and never ever touch its insides  They sell built too if you dont wanna do it. For your budget you can get something very powerful. Also, in my experience anyway, the after sales support, and tech support has always been first class.
As far as not wanting to touch the insides is concerned, if your gonna spend that kind of money on anything, shirley your gonna want to be able to have some hands on tweakage.
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07-02-2009, 04:18 PM
|  | Where's the hidden *****? Vertex juggler | | Join Date: Sep 2008
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I've live in the US, but I'm sure industry prices are about the same across the board. I've seen Dell XPS machines around, Core i7 machines, for around $999.00 US. If you can afford an i7 it's definitely worth it. The 3rd memory channel with 3 match pairs is huge.
If you can add a Quadro FX card in one of those it could turn out to be a damn good workstation. They have the FX 1800 available now for around $499.99. or less. Even a generic machine with a Core i7 and 6GB+ matched RAM, (64 bit XP) with a Quadro FX would make a decent workstation type of machine.
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07-02-2009, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gazfx They sell built too if you dont wanna do it. For your budget you can get something very powerful. Also, in my experience anyway, the after sales support, and tech support has always been first class.
As far as not wanting to touch the insides is concerned, if your gonna spend that kind of money on anything, shirley your gonna want to be able to have some hands on tweakage. quite the opposite. I'm paying so much so i don't have to touch the insides, otherwise i would just fix this wouldn't i
is this packard bell ipower strong enough to render a 5 million polygon scene with out crapping out? and display crysis on super duper high settings?
that's all i need, my current machine crashes while rendering big scenes, i got a tutorial scene in 3dartist magazine. its around 4 million polygons and when i tried to load it maya just turned off, i couldn't even look at it.
the graphics card i found out is a rebranded/slightly changed Geforce 9600 GSO.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxTuVck2KGI]YouTube - ASUS GeForce 9600 GSO - Crysis VERY HIGH DX10[/ame]
so its looking good, i'm about to buy it unless you can find me a better pre built machine for the same price
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07-02-2009, 06:02 PM
|  | Where's the hidden *****? Vertex juggler | | Join Date: Sep 2008
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Packard Bell huh? I didn't even know they were around anymore. They totally tanked out here in the US years ago because their computers were junk. I don't know how their quality is now. I don't think poly count is as important as the render settings are.
I'm not familiar with Maya, but can't you bump the models' viewport view down so you can move around and do stuff? I think the 1 2 and 3 keys change the level of detail? If it's crashing on the render then you may need to change you render settings. Cache your pri and/or secondary light or something. 4 million polys isn't that crazy. I could probably run that on a dual core AMD X2 with a 9600 GT gaming card. Rendering is a different story though.
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07-02-2009, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by djkitt Packard Bell huh? I didn't even know they were around anymore. They totally tanked out here in the US years ago because their computers were junk. I don't know how their quality is now. I don't think poly count is as important as the render settings are.
I'm not familiar with Maya, but can't you bump the models' viewport view down so you can move around and do stuff? I think the 1 2 and 3 keys change the level of detail? If it's crashing on the render then you may need to change you render settings. Cache your pri and/or secondary light or something. 4 million polys isn't that crazy. I could probably run that on a dual core AMD X2 with a 9600 GT gaming card. Rendering is a different story though. i have AMD X2 with a 8600 GT gaming card and because maya's trying ti display 4 million polygons it poops out. its not render settings its the fact my pc cant do anything over 2 million polygons (and your talking about sub division display levels...yea i know what they are)
well that's it, i looked at the parts by them self and decided its the best pc i can afford so i'm getting the packard bell ipower.
by back in 30 minutes :P
EDIT:
shops closed i'll get it tomorrow..sigh...
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